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The Escape From New York & L.A. Page - A Tribute to Snake Plissken (http://www.theefnylapage.com)
created, designed, paid for
by a Swedish nut called Andreas Johansson born in the familiar year of
1981. I rented and saw Escape From New York and Escape From L.A.
almost back to back in 1997 and something just clicked. They were perfect for an
outsider like me. Finally I had a character I truly could relate
to and find sanctuary in. The
site was founded in 2002
and it aims to be the most
authoritative source for all things regarding Escape From New York, Escape From L.A. and Snake Plissken on the net. Therefore I recommend revisiting
it and the pages
on it because I don't report everything I add, change or do. Furthermore,
contributors are mentioned throughout the site and I thank each one of you for
your interest and help.
I would also like to thank former sites such as Assault on Webpage 13, A Tribute
to John Carpenter,
Escape From the Net,
From 1997 To 2013...,
I Heard You Were Dead,
The Snake Plissken
The un-official Snake Plissken Page for their effort, time
and inspiration. I still have a few stuff found on these sites. Many thanks!
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Comments (Note: The opinions
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views of the contributors, commentators and interviewees within this site etc.)
Snake isn't your average movie hero. Some would call him to be an anti-hero
but I agree with John Carpenter who considers him to be an absolute
hero. Snake just happens to be a very disappointed
cynical innocent bad
ironic sociopathic world weary self sufficient war veteran who just wants to be
free, stay alive the next 60 seconds and move on in a very dark, totalitarian
and corrupt world.
What's interesting about him is that he's so true to himself, incorruptible and individual
and it makes
him the most honorable and likable character in Escape From New York and
From L.A. We don't care when he destroys the tape in EFNY or shuts down the
earth in EFLA. In fact, we root for him. He makes a cruel statement about
humanity and the state of things and there's something we can learn here.
strike many chords in us and he truly is one of the most intriguing, complex
and unique movie character out there.
He's been a great inspiration in my life and I
created this site to honor him and keep this underdog's legacy alive and kicking.
Escape From New York
What I really enjoy about these movies is that they're inspired by true events.
There's some truth and possibility in them. The first draft of Escape From New York
was written in 1974 and was a reaction to the Watergate scandal and also to the increasing
crime and urban decay going on in New York during this time. The Vietnam war and the Iranian hostage crisis were also current at the
time. It looked dark and instead of making an utopian vision of the future John
Carpenter did the exact opposite. He showed us a very grim and bleak future. A
world gone too far. Escape From New York is a dark cautionary tale mixed with a
unique blend of film noir, western,
satire. It can also be viewed as a dark comedy. It dares to make fun of
authority. It dares to be really cynical. It dares to show us one of the most
ironic ending in cinema history etc. This is why I think this movie holds up and works so well. There's
an honest, authentic and also a very entertaining and timeless stylish quality about it.
The political satire still works and
the overall themes still resonates to
this day. It doesn't matter if Carpenter's
vision didn't come exactly true. It's still something that we fear and can happen and deep down it's
something we'd still like to see happen just like Mr. Carpenter has pointed
out. What also amazes me is his
ability to do great things out of limited budgets. This movie didn't need a big
budget. It needed John Carpenter and his crew. There's many reasons why this
movie has become such a cult classic. It really deserves it.
Escape From L.A.
Every time I watch Escape From L.A.
I have a blast. This is one of John Carpenter's bravest and most sardonic movies to
date. It's basically a rehash of the first movie
but set in another city and once
again Snake is forced to do a similar mission he doesn't care about that really
won't change things much, hence his saying, "The more things change, the more
they stay the same." This movie could easily have been a sell out but by making
it as a parody and a full-fledged satire makes the movie funnier, edgier and something that stands on its own.
Snake was never really a sequel kind of character in the first place so I have
no problems with it. Snake himself would probably like this movie more than the
first one. They talked about doing a sequel in 1986 but there was nothing
happening at that time that could inspire them to come up with something of
relevance. However, around ten years later they realized that Los Angeles had
become a perfect place to escape from. All the increasing earthquakes,
crimes, drive-by shootings and people living
in denial due to the funnier aspects L.A. provides gave them
inspiration. The timing was right for another escape and I hope more
people will give it another chance. This is another John Carpenter movie
ahead of its time and it raises some very interesting questions about freedom. 2013
has past but the movie still feels as relevant as ever.
It also has the best ending in a movie ever. I
salute Paramount for taking a chance
on such a subversive movie like this. Kurt Russell said it best: "You
either have a sense of humor or you don't - sometimes you need a little time to
sit back and have a laugh."
Escape From Earth
Snake escaping from Earth would've been a blast to see and it
would be a perfect continuation and conclusion to the Escape series. If more had supported Escape From L.A. I'm sure
John, Kurt and Debra would at least have considered it despite it being somewhat
of a joke. Oh well. I'm however very satisfied with the
two that we got.
My favorite director of course. He can direct any genre and still put a personal
stamp on them. There's a reason why he puts his name above the title. He's John
Carpenter and he makes John Carpenter movies. He often writes his own
screenplays and composes the music for his own movies as well. His movies also have an interesting and unique tendency to get
rediscovered and appreciated later on and become cult classics. There's something about them that lasts. There's
more than meets the eye about his work. I also dig his masterfully suspense,
stylistic skills, old school sensibility,
anti-sentimentality, honesty, dry sense of humor and hatred of authority. His music too of
course. Very much so. He's simply John Carpenter and in Escape From New York and
Escape From L.A. he really sets his wonderful rebellious nature free.
Some actors are just meant to play certain roles and Kurt was born to play this
part. His iconic performance as Snake Plissken is one of the
big reasons why we keep watching these movies over and over again. John
Carpenter said it best: "He
made Snake his own, which is what I wanted him to do. He gave him more depth and
dimension, and makes you care a lot more for him than I thought would be
It's impossible to imagine another actor as Snake Plissken.
Kurt was certainly not a
child actor in Disney movies anymore etc. This is one of the many gifts Kurt has.
He can play any part in any genre and unlike many he
dares to take chances and go his own way. This together
ironic and charismatic side
on and off screen makes him a very intriguing guy to watch. He truly is one
of the more underrated actors out there. Above all this he's also a
surprisingly grounded guy with a great and strong personality.
He's his own man and
a genuine guy. Kudos to that.
She was described by John Carpenter as "a real pioneer in this business, who
opened the road for women". She was also an environmentalist as a Board
Member of Women in Film and a Founding Board Member of the Earth Communications
Office (ECO). Aside from producing she also wrote Halloween 1-2, The Fog and
Escape From L.A. with John Carpenter (EFLA with Kurt Russell too). She wrote the
whole brilliant Beverly Hills part in EFLA for instance. She also produced some really remarkable movies like personal favorites
such as The Dead Zone
and The Fisher
King etc. The list goes on. She was also the driving force for the many
Snake projects going on in the early 2000s. She truly was a remarkable woman and
it was truly sad to hear about her passing in 2005 due to cancer. However, I hope
someday her dream will become reality.
When she was honored by Women in Film in 2003, Hill said: "I hope some day there
won't be a need for Women in Film. That it will be People in Film. That it will
be equal pay, equal rights and equal job opportunities for everybody."
Deleted Opening Sequence
Everything is great about this opening sequence except that it demystifies Snake
and softens him. It's a great introduction to Snake's world and having
robbing a Federal Reserve Bank makes sense. Snake doesn't care about the money.
Listen to how he says the following line to Taylor in the tube train after the
robbery: "Congratulations, you're a billionaire!" That line and
deliverance sums up a lot who
Snake is. He just wants to stick it to the man
whenever he gets the chance. Taylor being shot by the USPF at the end refusing
to surrender is also a very powerful scene. You really can sense that Taylor was
Snake's last living friend. However,
this scene also shows us a softer and more humane side to Snake when he decides
to go back for the shot Taylor and tries to talk him into surrendering. I'm sure
many out there would prefer to have this scene added into the movie, but I have
to agree with John Carpenter that it feels out of place from the rest of the
movie and demystifies him. The movie works better without it and the more we
don't know about Snake the more intriguing and powerful he becomes.
We kind of already know what's happened to him and what he's been through.
This is essential viewing for Snake fans though.
Escape From New York Score
When I heard the Main Title in the opening credits of the movie for the
first time I knew
that this movie was gonna be special somehow. It sets the tone immediately and the music is one of the reasons why this movie works so well. It's
eerie, simple, dark and very effective and it suits the movie perfectly. Adding Claude
Debussy's Engulfed Cathedral to the mix was also a brilliant move during the
glider flight into New York. I still listen to this soundtrack to this day and
it never fails to send shivers down my spine. However, I have some problem with
the new mixing on certain tracks on the expanded version of the soundtrack. I
still prefer the original ones in the first release.
Escape From L.A. Score
A very interesting and different score. As much as I wanted the movie to be scored
by John Carpenter only I think he did
the right choice to bring in Shirley Walker too. Escape From L.A. is a more
action packed adventure movie than Escape From New York and the music
they made for the movie really suits it. Carpenter's minimalistic electronic style together with Walker's bombastic orchestral style is an interesting
and unique fusion that goes along great to Snake's strange odyssey. The
remixed Main Title is also a pleasure to hear.
Escape From L.A. Album
Heavy metal and such is really not my cup of tea except for a few bands. However, the
songs suits the movie and White Zombie (and Rob Zombie) is one of these few
bands I really appreciate in this genre. Their song The One is a song I
really get a kick out of and it ends the movie perfectly.
Escape From New York Special Edition DVD
Everything is great about this DVD except for this: The documentary was a little
too short and I really missed Ernest Borgnine in it. Snake Bites trailer montage
looked like a fan made thing that was found on YouTube. Why no more deleted
scenes? Why no more documentaries? The Inside John Carpenter's Escape
vintage featurette would've been very appreciated since the same company's (MGM)
Special Edition DVD of The Fog included the Inside The Fog vintage
featurette produced by the same guys. Interviews about the score and special
effects would've also been appreciated.
Escape From New York Collector's Edition Blu-Ray
Everything is great about this Blu-Ray except for this: Region 1 encoded, no
additional deleted scenes and no Inside John Carpenter's Escape
vintage featurette. I especially
enjoyed the Big Challenges in Little Manhattan featurette since it also
has many previously unseen photos. All additional extras are a treat as well.
Escape From New York Movie Tie-In Novel
I enjoy this book. It fleshes out the characters and the escape universe more
while still being true to the movie. It has a different back story of what
caused the increased crime and how New York was turned into a prison etc. It's a fun read, but I still prefer the original movie because
it's perfect the way it is and I personally think it works better without these
additions. I think the gas explanation simplifies things, softens it and makes the story unnecessary bleaker. I also dislike Mike McQuay's
more humanized approach to Snake. He kept the deleted opening material that
softens him and we also get to
know his feelings more with very mixed results. We also get to know more about
his war past in Leningrad and that he lost his eye due to gas. By the way, we also
get to know that his parents were killed by the USPF from a hostage situation.
Not my cup of tea at all. However, the Steri-Chamber is an interesting
Coleman Luck's Escape From L.A. Script
Turning L.A. into a lunatic asylum is not
such a bad idea and it has interesting, inventive and dark comedic qualities in
it. In fact, many of Coleman's ideas ended up in John Carpenter's, Debra Hill's
and Kurt Russell's drafts and some even in the final film. However, I really dislike the idea of this being a
prequel to EFNY and I really have a problem with the whole clone thing
involving Snake. It's an interesting and provocative concept, but most Snake
Peter Briggs Escape From L.A. Script
Only a storyline has been provided by
Peter but this seems to be a more straightforward action thriller than the other
versions. It only takes place a couple of years
after the first movie and Snake's consequences is taken in consideration. Snake
is also a bounty hunter in the beginning of the
script which kind of would've been fun to see and Rehme is also back. In this
version Snake agrees to do a mission to find out why Fresno Bob (yes the Fresno
Bob) has begun working
for scumbags in a
Could be interesting.
Escape From New York Remake
To remake Escape From New York would be a crime against nature. How many
other remakes of John Carpenter's movies could stand on their own feet? The only
one I can think of is Assault on Precinct 13. I will probably never
watch it again but it was all right. Escape From New York is so
associated with John Carpenter and Kurt Russell and Snake Plissken is an
offspring of both of them so a remake of this kind just feels wrong on so many
levels. As much as I want to see Snake resurrect on the big screen again it just won't be
the same without Carpenter and Russell.
Escape From New York is also a cult movie and cult movies should be left alone
in my mind.
There's absolutely no point whatsoever to remake a movie as unique as this. It
holds up for a reason and if people feel they need to update this movie I feel
sorry for them. It will most likely be another bland and generic remake anyway.
A higher budget and more action doesn't mean shit if it can't carry the spirit
of the original.
John Carpenter's movie is
rather restrained in some areas, but that means that the audience get to
participate and fill in the blanks for themselves and I think it just benefits the movie. Do we really have to see Manhattan being evacuated and the wall being
built for instance? Of course you can comment and deal with more current
subjects and issues with it but without Carpenter's involvement it
probably just feel forced. This project is doomed from the start in my mind so
please surprise me if you have to do it. At least it could spark an interest for
the original for a new audience. Bottom line: As long as Mr. Carpenter receives
his check I'm fine with it.
The Adventures of Snake Plissken
In this comic book Snake is hunted by a cyborg that is based on Snake himself!
Sure, it's a fun idea, but it feels out of place and it's too far-fetched for my liking. It's
a very one-dimensional affair. Snake is basically just a more muscular cartoon
version of himself.
However, I do like that the USPF are in it. I also like that Snake in this comic
book has a little more charisma than the one featured in Snake Plissken Chronicles.
The artwork isn't bad either. This comic book only had one issue and I think
I speak for most fans that it was for the better.
Snake Plissken Chronicles
What's good about this comic book is that it's less over the top than the
previous one and it has great artwork. Although, the resemblance with
Kurt Russell isn't quite there. The closer to the likeness of Russell the better
for me. However, this is yet a very
one-dimensional affair. It's action over substance and Snake needs more than
that to work.
Not even the
USPF or Bob Hauk are in it either.
To be frank, I don't think Snake is a character that suits the comic book
format. In fact, I don't think Snake is very suited to be exploited at all. Less
is more with Snake and he never really was a character that John Carpenter
intended to make a franchise out of in the first place. It makes the movie and character more
powerful. We don't need to know his past or more about him. We kind of know all
these things already and you can't offer him anything, you have to force him
with his life to get him to do anything. Although, he could be bored and in need
of some money sometimes or end up in trouble but in general, all Snake ever
wanted to do was to get even with the authorities, strike a blow for his own
beliefs and move on and he got to do that in the movie. It's a perfect ending
for the character. His circle is complete and I think it can only go downhill
from here. I think John Carpenter and Kurt Russell were aware of this and
therefore decided to have a little fun with the concept when they decided to
bring Snake back for another adventure in the second movie. This is another
comic book I won't miss.
Escape From New York
The more things change, the more they stay the same. This comic book falls in
the same trap as the previous Snake Plissken comic book. It mistakes the movie
as a straight up action movie when it's more of a film noir. For instance,
in the beginning of
this comic book Snake escapes from Liberty Island in a helicopter, lights a
cigarette and battles several helicopters. It would've been so much better and
suitable if he just disappeared without a trace and then just show up someplace.
I'm also not in favor of a continuation of
Escape From New York.
You can read my previous comment about that. For me and most other fans there's only one story left and that's
Escape From Earth. Why follow the same path as the previous comic book
when it's clearly that it should've been an Escape From Earth comic book?
Instead we got an Escape From New York comic book that seems more
inspired by Escape From L.A. (?) and not in a good way. The
lackluster artwork and cheesy moments rubs me the wrong way. Snake Plissken needs a writer
like Alan Moore or Frank Miller and an artist who can give him dignity and a
it feels like a hack job.
Fans of the movie and Snake deserves something better.
Big Trouble In Little China/Escape From New York
"Escape" TV Series
This sounds like a terrible idea. Snake working for the President before the
events in EFNY trying to bring normalcy to devastated cities around the
world. It would've been an interesting concept if it wasn't Snake related. I
have absolutely no desire to watch this. It feels unnecessary and it wouldn't be the Snake I like so
much. I'm grateful it didn't got made.
The thing I was looking forward the most was the video game. Playing Snake in
this game with provided likeness, motion capture work and voice by Kurt Russell
and cooperation from John Carpenter and Debra Hill would've been very
interesting. I actually think this could've been a great game if it could
capture the look and feel from the first movie. Snake and his universe would
really suit a video game. The anime movie could also have been interesting since
Kurt would provide his voice here too. John and Debra would also help them out
with the screenplay and there was a rumor saying that Carpenter would do the
score. I still feel that Snake is best suited for live-action movies, but it
would've been interesting to see what they could've done with it. The Novels
too. I'm willing to give everything a chance. I don't desire new Snake stuff
except for a third movie with John and Kurt and maybe a video game, but it sure
would be fun if something good was made. Snake deserves more attention if the
right people gets involved.